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An Alternate Take: The Yankees Should Avoid Jake Arrieta

February 22, 2018 by Domenic Lanza Leave a Comment

(Stacy Revere/Getty)

Spring Training officially began over a week ago, and, depending upon your baseball news outlet of choice, somewhere between “a lot of” and “way too many” quality free agent pitchers remain on the market. The Yankees have, of course, been linked to all of them in one way or another, and the notion that Brian Cashman could and/or should don his ninja apparel to swoop in and sign one to a bargain deal has only increased with time. The fact that the team has made no secret of its hope to add starting pitching even as players report to camp only fans the flame.

Jake Arrieta is the best starting pitcher on the market nowadays, and there is no shortage of discussion about what it would take for him to end up in pinstripes. Talking heads have suggested a deal akin to what the Red Sox gave J.D. Martinez – 5-years, $110 MM, with opt outs after 2019 and 2020 – and our own Mike Axisa suggested 3-years and $75 MM, with opt outs after each season; this includes signing Arrieta mid-season, but that’s not important for the purpose of this post. While both options sound good for a pitcher with Arrieta’s track record (and ignoring any luxury tax implications), I would not be comfortable giving the soon-to-be 32-year-old a multiyear deal with player options.

Why, you ask? I think Arrieta is one of the big free agent landmines of this class.

There is no denying that Arrieta has been brilliant on the whole for the Cubs, and that his post-Orioles career is another reason to make fun of that particular organization’s inability to develop pitching. And there’s no denying that he was quite good in 2017, despite a late season hamstring injury. There are simply too many red flags for me to overlook when considering locking Arrieta in for several years. To begin, take a look at his last three years, beginning with his Cy Young-winning 2015:

Arrieta’s strikeout rate has slipped significantly, his walk rate went from elite to right around league-average, his groundball rate slumped from among the best in the majors to league-average, and his home run rate went from elite to average to below-average. As a result of this, Arrieta was a roughly average starter last year, posting 1.9 bWAR and 2.4 fWAR. And it wasn’t just the production, either. Here’s his velocity over the last three years:

Arrieta lost between 0.5 MPH and 1.0 MPH on his offerings between 2015 and 2016, which is not necessarily disconcerting. However, losing between 1.5 MPH and 2.0 MPH across the board is scary. And that dip in velocity can’t be explained away by his injury, either, as Arrieta’s hamstring strain happened in August. Now, to be fair, his velocity did tick up right after the All-Star break – but it was still a MPH off of 2016’s norm. That’s less than ideal – as is being hit harder and harder over time:

(FanGraphs)

It’s worth noting that players are simply hitting the ball harder now, and Arrieta is still allowing less hard contact than the average pitcher. Nevertheless, this is another example of him heading from elite towards average over the last year or so, and that’s not what you want to see with a potential big-money signing – particularly one that will be 32 on Opening Day.

None of this is to suggest that Arrieta will be bad in 2018, or even 2019 or 2020. Rather, I just don’t see him continuing to be a top of the rotation starter, and that is what he is hoping to be paid as (even in this depressed market). What we have here is a pitcher in his 30s who’s striking out fewer batters, losing velocity, giving up more fly balls, and giving up harder hit balls in general, and the discussion is giving him a multiyear deal … and I feel that it is far riskier than has been let on.

Would I give him a fair bit of the Yankees remaining funds to join the rotation on a one-year pillow contract? Definitely. Would I blow up the luxury tax plan for this year for said pillow contract? Yes, I think so. But I wouldn’t want to be tied to him for multiple seasons – and that’s probably what it’s going to take.

Filed Under: Hot Stove League Tagged With: Jake Arrieta

The Yankees and a Jake Arrieta hypothetical

February 20, 2018 by Mike Leave a Comment

(Stacy Revere/Getty)

We’ve reached the dog days of Spring Training. Pitchers and catchers reported a week ago and position players joined them over the weekend, but Grapefruit League games haven’t started yet. Nothing’s really going on and those grainy spring Twitter photos from half-a-field away have lost their luster. Exhibition games start Friday. Until then, we wait.

Fortunately the hot stove is starting to get hot and that’s entertaining. Yu Darvish signing with the Cubs kinda started it all. Eric Hosmer signed with the Padres shortly thereafter, and yesterday the Red Sox signed J.D. Martinez. The move everyone expected to happen finally happened. Spoiler alert: The AL East is going to be a dogfight. When is it not?

Anyway, at the moment the Yankees have $22M to spend under the luxury tax threshold, or $12M when you remove the $10M they’re planning to set aside for midseason pickups. I expect that $12M to go somewhere before Opening Day. Maybe Mike Moustakas falls into their laps. That seems more and more likely with each passing day. Maybe it’s Alex Cobb. Or Lance Lynn. Or Chris Archer! Who knows?

I think that $12M is going somewhere, but what if it doesn’t? What if the Yankees stand pat, go into the season with two kid infielders, and set aside a whopping $22M for midseason additions. That is a frickin’ ton. Remember, luxury tax hits are pro-rated. Trade for a $20M player at the midway point and the tax hit is only $10M. Having $22M to play with means the Yankees could take on some serious salary at the trade deadline, if necessary.

Since there’s nothing else going on these days, I’ve been thinking about hypotheticals regarding that midseason addition money lately. It is entirely possible the Yankees will need to add a starting pitcher and two infielders at the trade deadline. It could happen. And if it does, the have the money to spend. But if it doesn’t? Will they really just pocket that $22M? I wouldn’t put it past ownership.

Anyway, so I was thinking about that midseason addition money, and one name popped into my head: Jake Arrieta. Granted, this sounded a lot better before free agents starting signing, but what about Arrieta as a midseason addition? Scott Boras and Arrieta may not get an offer to their liking, so he could remain unsigned come Opening Day. A dumb armchair GM contract proposal:

  • Three years and $25M per season, prorated in 2018.
  • Opt-outs following 2018 and 2019.
  • Full no-trade clause, because why the hell not.

If the Yankees and Arrieta wait until after the draft in June, the draft pick compensation goes away. The Yankees could technically sign Arrieta to a minor league deal before the draft, have him make some minor league tune-up starts to prepare for the season, then sign him to the big contract after the draft to avoid the draft pick compensation, and get him into the rotation as soon as possible. Not against the rules!

Financially, when you add a player at midseason, the luxury tax hit is prorated. So say the Yankees sign Arrieta at the halfway point of the season, just to make the math easy. His $25M salary prorates to $12.5M, and that’s the luxury tax hit in 2018. The luxury tax hit then jumps to $25M in 2018 and 2019, assuming Arrieta doesn’t opt-out. When the Yankees traded for David Robertson, his luxury tax hit was prorated last year. This year it’s the full amount.

For all intents and purposes, that contract would be a pillow deal on steroids. Arrieta gets to pitch for a contender the rest of the summer — I imagine he’d be pretty desperate for work if he’s still unsigned come June — then reevaluate the market after the season. If he wants to test free agency, he can opt-out. If he doesn’t, he can stay and see what happens next year. And if he gets hurt this year or next, the opt-outs serve as an insurance policy.

Why sign Arrieta? Well, he’s really good for starters, and it’d be hard to come up with a better pitcher at midseason for nothing but cash. Last season Arrieta had a 3.53 ERA (4.16 FIP) with 23.1% strikeouts, 7.8% walks, and 45.1% grounders in 168.1 innings around hamstring trouble. He’s good, he has a championship pedigree, and when he goes into Terminator mode, Arrieta is as dominant as anyone on the planet.

Sign Arrieta at midseason and the Yankees would get a rent-an-ace while keeping their draft picks, and Arrieta would get a pricey contract that allows him to test the market the next two offseasons or collect $50M. And the Yankees would still stay under the $197M luxury tax threshold. A win-win. Guys like Roy Oswalt, Pedro Martinez, and Roger Clemens have waited until midseason to sign in the recent past. It wouldn’t be unprecedented.

Now, that said, the chances of this happening are incredibly small. Free agents are starting to come off the board — Boras found homes for Hosmer and Martinez within the last few days — so it’s probably only a matter of time until Arrieta gets a deal. My money is on the Nationals, but we’ll see. Like I said, this all sounded better in my head before free agents started signing and it seems like guys would legitimately go into the season without contracts.

Realistically, there’s no way for the Yankees to sign Arrieta now and stay under the luxury tax threshold. He’s not taking that steep a discount, if he takes one at all. And, frankly, I have no interest in Arrieta on a long-term contract. Too many red flags. A short-term deal like the one I presented though? Sign me the hell up. Arrieta with a chip on his shoulder could be a great midseason pickup.

The Yankees are probably going to spend that $22M under the luxury tax threshold when it’s all said and done. My guess is they’ll spend some now and some later, at the trade deadline. Landing an impact player like Arrieta at midseason while keeping draft picks and staying under the threshold is a pipe dream, but at this point of the spring, crazy hypotheticals come with the territory.

Filed Under: Hot Stove League Tagged With: Jake Arrieta

2014 Trade Deadline Open Thread: Monday

July 28, 2014 by Mike 135 Comments

"There's always money in the banana stand!" (MLB.com)
“There’s always money in the banana stand!” (MLB.com)

The non-waiver trade deadline is 4pm ET this Thursday, and between now and then there will be a ton of rumors and speculation. Some actual moves too. The Yankees have already swung trades for Brandon McCarthy and Chase Headley, but Brian Cashman has said he is still seeking another starter and another bat. I don’t know if they’ll get another deal done, but I fully expect plenty of Yankees-related rumors this week, hence a full week of open threads rather than one or two days.

Over the last few days we’ve heard New York connected to John Danks (link) and Ian Kennedy (link). They do not have interest in Matt Kemp (link), however. The Rockies and White Sox are said to be keeping an eye on Francisco Cervelli (link). Obviously young catching is one of the team’s most tradeable assets. We’ll keep track of the day’s Yankees-related rumors right here in this post, so make sure you check back throughout the day. All of the timestamps below are ET.

  • 5:35pm: The Yankees have been connected to outfielder Chris Denorfia, but they are not engaged in talks with the Padres about him. [Sherman]
  • 5:11pm: The Red Sox are getting “hit hard” with inquiries about both Jon Lester and John Lackey, including from other AL East clubs. That doesn’t necessarily mean the Yankees called, but it would make sense if they did. [Ken Rosenthal]
  • 4:03pm: The Yankees are “in on everything” but they are very reluctant to trade away their best prospects. If true, they won’t be able to make any big upgrades, just smaller, incremental ones. [Joel Sherman]
  • 3:05pm: The White Sox have been scouting New York’s minor league catching depth in recent days, furthering speculation of a Danks trade. The Yankees are also focusing on a right-handed platoon partner for Ichiro Suzuki, which doesn’t really make sense given his splits the last few years. [Jayson Stark]
  • 12:25pm: The Yankees and Cubs have discussed Jake Arrieta, though it would take a huge offer to pry the right-hander away from Chicago. Arrieta is in the middle of a breakout year following some mechanical and pitch selection adjustments. [George Ofman]
  • 11:00am: The Yankees are eyeing Josh Willingham as well as other outfield bats like Alex Rios and Marlon Byrd. They prefer Willingham because he is a pure rental. The Yankees are included in Rios’ six-team no-trade list. Here’s my Scouting The Market post on Willingham. [Jon Heyman & Ken Rosenthal]
  • Danks remains a target and is among the most likely players to be moved. There is no evidence they’ve talked with the Padres about Kennedy and they aren’t focused on Cliff Lee because his contract ensures he’ll be available in August. The Yankees do not appear to have interest in Wade Miley, Bartolo Colon, or Edwin Jackson. [Heyman]
  • Just in case you got your hopes up after his appearance at Yankee Stadium yesterday, Troy Tulowitzki is not close to being traded to the Yankees. “I’m with my family. I wanted to see (Derek) Jeter play one more time,” he said. Tulo was in the area seeing a specialist about his hip injury. [Nick Groke]

Filed Under: Open Thread, Trade Deadline Tagged With: Alex Rios, Bartolo Colon, Chicago White Sox, Chris Denorfia, Cliff Lee, Edwin Jackson, Ian Kennedy, Jake Arrieta, John Danks, Josh Willingham, Marlon Byrd, Troy Tulowitzki, Wade Miley

Top 10 starting pitchers against the Yankees by ERA since 2009

May 10, 2012 by Larry Koestler 17 Comments

(photo: Rick Yeatts/Getty)

In the aftermath of yet another strong Jeff Niemann performance against the Yankees — whose seven-inning, one-run outing last night improved his career ERA against New York to 2.75 over six starts — I couldn’t help but wonder what Niemann’s overall numbers against the Bombers looked like in relation to other starters that have consistently had success when facing the team.

Going back to the beginning of 2009, here are the top 10 starters against the Yankees by lowest ERA (minimum three starts), courtesy of David Pinto’s wonderful day-by-day database:

Most of the names on this list would probably align with Yankee fans’ perceptions of pitchers the team typically struggles against — and frankly I was shocked that King Felix’s name didn’t top the list. His aberrant start last September slightly skewed his numbers, but prior to that completely out-of-character dud, no pitcher in baseball had had more success against the Yankees. Felix had thrown 40 innings of six-run ball (1.35 ERA) against the Yankees, including 24 innings of one-run ball (0.38 ERA!) at Yankee Stadium dating back to the beginning of 2010, and not having been saddled with a loss against the Bombers since May 3, 2008.

However, there are a couple of eye-openers — I can’t say I expected Carl Pavano to make the top 10, although I suppose that makes some sense given his unique brand of right-handed slop. And the other is Niemann, who, believe it or not, has the third-lowest ERA among all starters against the Yankees since the beginning of 2009, his first full season in the bigs. Now, I don’t mean to knock on Niemann, who clearly has the Yankees’ number, but it does seem a bit odd that a hurler who’s been a decidedly average — if not below-average — right-hander during his career (102 ERA-; 105 FIP-) would be so successful against the best offensive team in baseball during that timeframe.

For the most part, aside from Niemann and Pavano, almost everyone else in that group makes sense — hard-throwing, high-strikeout right-handers, but I was also curious to see whether there were any other similarities among this group that might uncover why they’ve routinely stymied the Bombers’ bats. Courtesy of Brooks’ Pitcher Cards, here’s what each pitcher in the top 10 throws and how hard they throw it:

Here’s where things get interesting. Four of the top five pitchers in this study throw a sinker more than 30% of the time, and the fifth — Niemann — just misses that cutoff, at 29% of the time. Additionally, both Pavano and Jake Arrieta are also sinker-heavy, which means that seven of the top 10 throw a sinker more than 25% of the time.

Of course, it’d be easy to say, “well maybe the Yankees just stink against sinkers,” but that’s not even remotely true, as they have the second-best wSI/C in baseball since 2009. Still, there’s something about this variety of sinkerballer — several of whom also prominently feature a curve (Hernandez, Niemann, Haren and Arrieta each go to the hook more than 10% of the time) — that seem to have the Yankees’ goose cooked.

Filed Under: Analysis, Pitching Tagged With: Felix Hernandez, Jake Arrieta, Jeff Niemann, Justin Masterson

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